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  Jeffrey Jackson: Too much excitement got in the way for the ''false dates''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  annual meeting 2019—talks and 2020 year textthe governing body members are nothing but a bunch of weasels.

  here is a talk by jeffrey jackson on how the governing body ''the slave class'' has remained spiritually awake over 100 years and alerted its members.. he looks back on the ''faithful and discreet slaves'' false dates over the 100 years: '' but at times, we look back over 100 years, and there were times they got excited about a certain year or time, and the end didn't come at that time.''.

  he makes the comparison between the ''slave class ( who disappointed others when the end didn't come ) to a barking watchdog ( who in his enthusiasm barks at nothing in the middle of the night and wakes up the owner).

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  TonusOH
  The only significance that was ever implied was that it could mark the year when Jehovah would finally bring about the end of the current system of things and usher in the new world under divine governance.

  Great Post TonusOH! Here is the article where they make that implication:

  • w68 8/15 pp. 494-501
  • Why Are You Looking Forward to 1975?

  ADAM CREATED AT CLOSE OF “SIXTH DAY”

  30. What may occur before 1975, but what attitude should we take?

  30 Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then? Possibly, but we wait to see how closely the seventh thousand-year period of man’s existence coincides with the sabbath like thousand-year reign of Christ. If these two periods run parallel with each other as to the calendar year, it will not be by mere chance or accident but will be according to Jehovah’s loving and timely purposes. Our chronology, however, which is reasonably accurate (but admittedly not infallible), at the best only points to the autumn of 1975 as the end of 6,000 years of man’s existence on earth. It does not necessarily mean that 1975 marks the end of the first 6,000 years of Jehovah’s seventh creative “day.” Why not? Because after his creation Adam lived some time during the “sixth day,” which unknown amount of time would need to be subtracted from Adam’s 930 years, to determine when the sixth seven-thousand-year period or “day” ended, and how long Adam lived into the “seventh day.” And yet the end of that sixth creative “day” could end within the same Gregorian calendar year of Adam’s creation. It may involve only a difference of weeks or months, not years.
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  Jeffrey Jackson: Too much excitement got in the way for the ''false dates''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  annual meeting 2019—talks and 2020 year textthe governing body members are nothing but a bunch of weasels.

  here is a talk by jeffrey jackson on how the governing body ''the slave class'' has remained spiritually awake over 100 years and alerted its members.. he looks back on the ''faithful and discreet slaves'' false dates over the 100 years: '' but at times, we look back over 100 years, and there were times they got excited about a certain year or time, and the end didn't come at that time.''.

  he makes the comparison between the ''slave class ( who disappointed others when the end didn't come ) to a barking watchdog ( who in his enthusiasm barks at nothing in the middle of the night and wakes up the owner).

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  Rattigan350 There are no false dates. False expectations, but not false dates.

  Mr. Jackson didn't name 1975, but he walked around it: '' But at times, we look back over 100 years, and there were times they got excited about a certain year or time, and the end didn't come at that time.''

  Maybe you didn't live through the 1975 debacle like I did, where the preaching work was intensified and many brothers sold their homes and businesses.

  
  
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  Jeffrey Jackson: Too much excitement got in the way for the ''false dates''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  annual meeting 2019—talks and 2020 year textthe governing body members are nothing but a bunch of weasels.

  here is a talk by jeffrey jackson on how the governing body ''the slave class'' has remained spiritually awake over 100 years and alerted its members.. he looks back on the ''faithful and discreet slaves'' false dates over the 100 years: '' but at times, we look back over 100 years, and there were times they got excited about a certain year or time, and the end didn't come at that time.''.

  he makes the comparison between the ''slave class ( who disappointed others when the end didn't come ) to a barking watchdog ( who in his enthusiasm barks at nothing in the middle of the night and wakes up the owner).

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  Annual Meeting 2019—Talks and 2020 Year Text
  

  The Governing Body members are nothing but a bunch of weasels. Here is a talk by Jeffrey Jackson on how the Governing Body ''The Slave Class'' has remained spiritually awake over 100 years and alerted its members.

  He looks back on the ''Faithful and Discreet Slaves'' false dates over the 100 years: '' But at times, we look back over 100 years, and there were times they got excited about a certain year or time, and the end didn't come at that time.''

  He makes the comparison between the ''Slave Class ( who disappointed others when the end didn't come ) to a barking watchdog ( who in his enthusiasm barks at nothing in the middle of the night and wakes up the owner). Mr. Jackson throws in a little comedy that is met with laughter. "DO YOU SHOOT THE DOG?"

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  Anthony Morris the III has been FOUND

  by Terry in

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  note: photos can be found on the blue envelope channelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nakezkhqbmtony and susan morris are living in lumberton, north carolina.

  a real estate document on the robeson county website is filed:.

  the religious order of jehovah's witnesses has provided a "life estate" for them.they can live in this townhouse until they are deceased or choose to move away and in either case the ownership becomes entirely the property of jehovah's witnesses.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA
  I suspect WTower never planned for this to get out, they thought it would be secret.
  in the past it was easier to keep secrets and the Borg worked like that, everything confidential and secrecy was successful
  these days the internet changed everything and now what used to be easy to keep confidential is very difficult or even impossible
  now that all this is getting out there the Borg may decide to move him again to another safe house

  I'm happy that the internet has finally exposed the corrupt Jehovah's Witness Society.

  I know that anyone can get records at their local County Office on divorces, marriages, home owner deeds/addresses, bankruptcies and lawsuits. I'm not happy that someone's home address is readily available and thrown around on the internet. Mr. Morris and his wife have the right to privacy and the enjoyment of their home. No one needs people driving around and taking photos and videos of Mr. Morris walking on his property or getting in his car. That to me is stalking!
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  Getting Fed at Assemblies and Camping Around the Stadium

  by mikronboy in

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  this was the 1963 assembly at twickenham.

  i recall the wt deciding no more camping after this due to "immorality" having taken place.. https://youtu.be/lhcl-13dyne.

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  Just shows to me that people living six decades ago were a much hardier stock than the wimps today.

  Here is my wimp story:

  Our congregation was assigned Milwaukee County Stadium for our 1975 four day summer convention. Our congregation was 90 miles away from Milwaukee, located on the north side of Chicago.

  Some congregation members stayed at Milwaukee hotels for the four day convention. Since my parents and some congregation members were either too cheap/ or didn't have the means to pay for hotels and meals, they decided to charter a bus to Milwaukee for the four days. The chartered bus picked us up at 7.a.m. every morning at our Chicago Kingdom Hall. It was a 2 hour drive to Milwaukee. The starting time for the 4 day Assembly was at 9:45 a.m. .

  Since the bus arrived around 9 a.m. each morning in Milwaukee, all seats that were shaded/partly shaded or had a cover from the blazing sun in the middle of July were all taken. We had no choice but to sit on the outfield seats ( which were in full sun, all day long). Imagine sitting in the blazing sun all day long with a jacket/ tie or mothers having to take care of small children in the oppressive heat. Talk about sunstroke!

  The convention meetings ended around 5 p.m. We would get back on the chartered bus around 6 p.m. and drove back to Chicago for another 2 hour drive. It would be around 8:30 p.m. each night that we would arrive back home. We ate dinner around 8:30 p.m., went to bed, and did the same routine for the next 3 days.
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  Getting Fed at Assemblies and Camping Around the Stadium

  by mikronboy in

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  this was the 1963 assembly at twickenham.

  i recall the wt deciding no more camping after this due to "immorality" having taken place.. https://youtu.be/lhcl-13dyne.

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  It's sad how the Watchtower Society has treated their faithful members since it's founding in the late 1880's!

  Here we have the 1963 Twickeham Assembly, where 30 thousand members suffer 8 full days of hot sun, lunch served military style, sleeping in tents, bathing, cleaning and bathroom breaks ( who knows where ), mothers contending with nursing, feeding and changing little babies, no air-conditioning, long wait times to enter and leave the grounds...

  What have we ( all who have slaved for the Society) gotten in return? Lies, pedophile lawsuits, downsizing and selling of Kingdom Halls and broken promises!
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  The Watchtower is in the renovation NOT construction business now

  by raymond frantz in

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  the watchtower is officially in the renovation business now (no more building) because the "brothers"(freemasonic scum of pensylvania?

  ) know best 🤣🤣🤣.

  ***from the latest watchtower article 07/12/23.

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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | September 2023

  STUDY ARTICLE 37

  Rely on Jehovah, as Samson Did

  7 Many brothers and sisters who are involved in theocratic construction projects have shown trust in Jehovah. In the past, brothers usually designed and constructed most new Kingdom Halls and other buildings. Eventually, though, the needs of Jehovah’s growing organization called for an adjustment. The responsible brothers sought Jehovah’s direction and tried new methods, such as purchasing facilities and renovating them. “At first, it was not easy for some to embrace this new approach,” says Robert, who in recent years has worked with many of our building projects around the world. He continues: “It was very different from what we had been doing for years. But the brothers were willing to adapt, and it has become evident that Jehovah is blessing these adjustments.” This is just one example of how Jehovah is guiding his people to accomplish his will. From time to time, all of us do well to ask ourselves, ‘Am I looking for Jehovah’s direction and remaining adaptable in my service to him?’

  
  

  Robert ( who worked on the construction of new Kingdom Halls and other buildings) is now a renovation worker. Since the Watchtower Society is paying for too many pedophile lawsuits, they have no choice but to purchase older facilities and renovate them.

  Also, the paragraph forgets to mention Bethel layoffs and all non-essential branch projects were either cancelled or put on hold years ago. Watchtower Headquarters asked branches to sell as much equipment as they could liquidate.
  

  Jehovah adjusts to the new renovation projects. If Jehovah can make the adjustment, the brothers need to embrace and adapt to these changes.
  

  
  
  
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  Why does a loving God need to settle moral issues with the Devil?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  bible teachings.

  bible questions answered.

  why did god allow the holocaust?.

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  Why did God allow the Holocaust?

  God allowed the Holocaust for the same reason that he has permitted all human suffering: to settle moral issues that were raised long ago. The Bible clearly indicates that at present the Devil, not God, rules the world. (Luke 4:1, 2, 6; John 12:31) Two basic facts from the Bible can help explain why God allowed the Holocaust.

  1. God created humans with free will. God told the first humans, Adam and Eve, what he expected of them, but he did not force them to obey. They chose to decide for themselves what was good and bad, and their bad choice—and similar choices by people throughout history—has brought horrible consequences to mankind. (Genesis 2:17; 3:6; Romans 5:12) It is as the book Statement of Principles of Conservative Judaism says: “Much of the world’s suffering directly results from our misuse of the free will granted to us.” Rather than revoke our free will, God has given humans time to try to manage their affairs independent of him.

  2. God can and will undo all the damage of the Holocaust. God promises to bring back to life millions who have died, including Holocaust victims. He will also eliminate the pain that Holocaust survivors feel because of horrific memories. (Isaiah 65:17; Acts 24:15) God’s love for mankind guarantees that he will fulfill these promises.—John 3:16.

     The Bible characterizes Satan as a powerful spiritual being whose primary goal is to turn us away from God. The Bible says, “Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour” (1 Peter 5:8).

     God ( in all his power and wisdom) somehow lets Satan cause disturbances in heaven, tempts Adam and Eve, Job, and Jesus. God allows Satan to rule the world so they can settle moral issues. Satan is even allowed to tempt humans after Armageddon. For some reason, he never goes away!

     My question ( I do not believe there is a Devil ) is: Why does God even allow ''free will'' and permits the Devil to ''rule the world,'' when ( with all his wisdom ) he knows both lead to human suffering? Why allow evil in the first place, and later ''guarantee'' the elimination of pain and death? What's the whole point?
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  Lots of empty seats at Jehovah's Witnesses Convention in Tucson, Arizona

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  https://youtu.be/5926nhzyz90.

  the jehovah's witness 2023 convention theme is, ''exercise patience''...by looking at the attendance at this tucson, arizona convention, it should be changed to, '' jehovah's witnesses...running out of patience''.

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  ..some don’t believe all the meetings and assemblies are necessary; they don’t want to spend time and money going there (getting an outfit/wear and tear and gas money on cars); some don’t want to expose themselves to germs; many are old and just don’t feel well and we all know that assemblies are an endurance test even for younger healthy people; maybe there is less tolerance for people in general, etc.

  Maybe many JWs just hanging on have grown weary of the religion (even without learning negative things about it). They like Zoom because it took a heavy load off them.

  Great post LongHairGal!

  I think the Zoom meetings has made many members realize how unimportant the meetings are. Too much wasted time and gas. Turn off your Zoom camera and pretend you're listening in.
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  JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.

  he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.

  he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.

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  The big problem is that very old doctrine was never meant to last this long.

  my guess is at some point over the next few decades they will announce new light. They will probably do it gradually and the organisation will be unrecognisable compared to what it was a few decades ago.